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Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
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Posted - 2017.06.20 14:42:07 -
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No. CCP can't put a hard limit on PLEX. That would cause a 2nd summer of rage in no time and the investors and speculators, who hoard millions of PLEX, would take revenge by i.e. crashing the PLEX market so hard that people would stop buying PLEX with RL money.
Whats CCP needs to do
- nerf ISK faucets
- buff ISK sinks
What they could to to decrease the insame demand for PLEX
- limit skill injectors to 1 per day
- turn 30 days of Omega time into a token (like multi character training) and sell it for 400 PLEX. That way investors would not be affected (SP farms and PLEX hoarders create the most demand for PLEX), but players who need to buy PLEX with ISK to pay their subscripton would have it easier. Subscribing with real money would still be cheaper.
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Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
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Posted - 2017.06.20 23:57:32 -
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Areen Sassel wrote:Algarion Getz wrote:What they could do to decrease the insane demand for PLEX: Do something about ghost training (which has just been done). The break-even point for ghost training (where PLEX lets you train just enough SP to sell for the ISK for the PLEX) was a much higher PLEX price than, say, non-exploit skill farming. I expect with the demise of ghost training we'll see SP prices rise more and PLEX prices stop this meteoric rise. I think this is more significant than your suggestion to limit skill injector use - with ghost training gone the demand for PLEX to buy skill extractors will fall naturally. They've also recently eliminated - well, reduced - PLEX losses in transit, but I dunno how significant those ever were. You're quite right about ISKflation, of course.
The banning of ghost training could also have the opposite effect because you can also farm SP legally by giving all your farming accounts Omega status (you buy Omega status with PLEX). The profit per character was ~250mill a while ago. Big SP farms (100+ characters) already existed before ghost training became popular. If the ghost farmers switch to the legal version of SP farming, demand for PLEX would increase even more.
Maybe thats already happening, the PLEX prices have risen very fast in the last days. |
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
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Posted - 2017.06.21 10:58:27 -
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Cor'El Dahken wrote:Why the actual f*** do you want Plex prices controlled?
So that average players can afford to pay their subscription with ISK?
These days the PLEX market is controlled by the space rich, speculators and investors who hoard millions of PLEX.
SP farms (the legal version) create a huge demand for PLEX which drives up the prices.
What would you prefer? A few thousand active players or a few thousand SP farm accounts who only login once a month and never undock?
Stuff like SP farms shouldnt even exist. How is it balanced to make billions per month with no work and no risk? If CCP wouldnt earn money with it (by selling skill extractors), it would be removed / blocked within days.
Every year CCP monetizes more aspects of the game by adding more uses for PLEX. Apparently the #1 goal for CCP is to sqeeze as much money out of the existing playerbase as possible. That strategy might be good for their wallets in the short term, but its very bad for the game in the long term. Player count goes down and down ... at the moments its ~15000 ... a few years ago we had twice as many, even on weekdays. |
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
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Posted - 2017.06.22 20:35:36 -
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Cor'El Dahken wrote:
Now these SP farms you are so upset about, do you think they would be sustainable if the PLAYERS did not want the SP?
Or Do you think the SP injectors should be cheap enough for everyone aswell?
It's not expensive to set up a SP farm, heck if your so upset about it extract your main and put the injectors up at a price you think they should be, or you could even buy PLEX and put it up on the market at the price you think it should be.
Quit your self entitled whinging and go play WOW if you want a game that's fair for everyone, go tell them their 'tokens' are too expensive.
Why should i switch to WoW when EVE is already like WoW. EVE stopped being hardcore when skill injectors were introduced. EVE character development these days is all about grinding. The more ISK you grind, the more injectors you can afford, the faster you "level up". Like in WoW.
And no, im not going to extract SP. I would rather biomass my characters. Skill injectors are a feature for the impatient and casuals, for the players who instantly want to switch to the newest overpowered ship/meta. Machariels are the meta? Inject the required skills! Rorquals get a huge buff? Inject the required skills! Rorquals get nerfed and carrier ratting is now the new hot thing? Inject the required skills!
To support all these bait and switch shenanigans we need SP farms that consume huge amounts of PLEX that could otherwise be used for game time. But PLEX supply is limited, so prices go up, but thats no problem for the 6% who rat in carriers and make almost 50% of all new ISK that enters the game per month.
But who am i to complain? I should just HTFU, inject some skills and start carrier ratting, right? |
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
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Posted - 2017.06.23 11:44:42 -
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Do you also remember the days when CCP said that passive and/or risk-free income is bad for the game and actually nerfed or removed it? (Like the removal of static ice belts for example.)
Now the rule is: Anything goes as long as it makes CCP money. |
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
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Posted - 2017.06.26 22:58:19 -
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Brurak StarKiller wrote:I do not see any CCP solution by PLEX in the market to bring down the price. This only gets worse because the smart ones buy these PLEX and resell.
Ban/nerf SP farms and demand for PLEX will plummet.
Nerf the ISK faucets and/or buff the sinks, so that there arent 60 trill extra ISK flowing into the economy every month.
People always say its a player driven market, but CCP is in full control. If CCP decides to do nothing, it doesnt mean that they have no control. |
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